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Electrical Conditions & Adders

This article details what qualifies as an electrical adder and the acceptable and unacceptable conditions of installed electrical panels.

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Written by Brian - LR Product Expert
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Including an electrical adder in the Quote tool will be a separate option from Batteries. When including an electrical adder to your project, you'll want to make sure to select the correct option in the Adders section:

Details of all qualified adders are listed below. Items not listed below do not qualify for higher tier pricing/EPC payments.

1. Full Service Upgrade

  • Varies widely based on conditions, type of service, AHJ & Utility

  • Conditions: antiquated service, wire sizing is not supportive of system back feed, may be precipitated by a meter relocation

  • Applies to:

    • PV Systems

    • PV Systems + Battery (partial or full home back up & arbitrage)

2. Main Service Panel Upgrade

  • Varies widely based on conditions, type of service, AHJ & Utility

  • Conditions: MSP is antiquated, of a disqualified class, shows signs of failure or corrosion or is not sized to support the proposed back feed

  • Applies to:

    • PV Systems

    • PV Systems + Battery (partial or full home back up & arbitrage)

3. Single, two, three, four gang - Meter Upgrade

  • Largely dependent on # of meters

  • Varies widely based on conditions, type of service, AHJ & Utility

  • Conditions: antiquated service, AHJ or Utility compliance, shows signs of failure or corrosion or is not sized to support the proposed back feed

  • Applies to:

    • PV Systems

    • PV Systems + Battery (partial or full home back up & arbitrage)

4. Sub Panel Insert

  • Takes the form of back up or critical loads panels

  • Inserting sub panel to avoid an MPU

  • Conditions: Existing Main panel is not suitable sized for back feed but the service is rated for the proposed back feed.

  • Applies to:

    • PV Systems

    • PV Systems + Battery (partial or full home back up & arbitrage)​

5. Meter Adapters (DOES NOT APPLY TO TESLA BACKUP SWITCH)

  • Conditions: Can be used to avoid an MPU but subject to AHJ & Utility restrictions and approved components

  • Applies to:

    • PV Systems

    • PV Systems + Battery (partial or full home back up & arbitrage)

When reviewing the electrical conditions of a project, the system should be designed to avoid or replace certain panel and breaker manufacturers to ensure code compliance.

Key Disclaimers:

  • Interconnection (upstream or downstream) of any DQ panel types is prohibited under LightReach policy.

Elec Panel/Type

Status

Additional Considerations

Fuse Box

DQ type - Replace
(No interconnection upstream or downstream of this panel)

Not as reliable as circuit breakers, constant maintenance, need modification with bigger fuses due to higher demands for houses nowadays. The circuits are only rated for a specific amount of amps, so putting a larger amp fuse onto a smaller amp rated circuit is potentially dangerous.

Federal Pacific/Stab-Lok

DQ type - Replace
(No interconnection upstream or downstream of this panel)

High rate of breaker failure, breakers often fail to trip, leading to overheated wiring that can lead to house fires.

Pushmatic/Bulldog

DQ type - Replace
(No interconnection upstream or downstream of this panel)

Obsolete, difficult to maintain. Circuit breakers fail to trip. Arching of the contacts within the breaker which causes them to weld together. All these concerns are considered to be potential shock and fire hazards.

Zinsco / GTE Sylvania

DQ type - Replace
(No interconnection upstream or downstream of this panel)

Obsolete. Circuit breakers fail to trip - failure rate much higher than what is considered an acceptable margin of safety. Potential fire hazard.

60A Meter Button/Can

Upgrade

Old houses with 60A service likely to hav a 60A meter. Is not typically enough for modern electrical usage. Typically not approved by most AHJs or utilities.

60A Service

Upgrade

Old houses with 60A service are not typically enough for modern electrical usage. Not approved by most AHJs or utilities.

Challenger Panels

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Supply side/Line side tap is OK. Backfeed breakers will not be considered as an approved interconnection method.

The biggest concern for Challengers breakers were their issue with overheating. In turn, that can cause many other issues, like fusing and/or melting, corrosion, or actual fires. Occasionally they don’t trip at all, or just may take too long to trip.

Split Bus & Hot Bus Panels

DQ type - Replace
(No interconnection in this panel)

Not compliant for interconnection per NEC.

Replacement Conditions

Regardless of the specific brand of panel, overall conditions should also be assessed, reviewing for the following. If any one of these conditions are met, replacement is required:

  • thermal damage

  • double lugged circuits or feeders

  • knob and tube wiring

  • rusted or corroded equipment

  • existing code violations, clearance issues, or overall safety concerns.

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Federal Pacific Stab-Lok

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Pushamatic / Bulldog:

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Zinsco / GTE Sylvania:

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Split Bus Panels

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Hot Bus Panels

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Fuse Box / screw in fuses and/or cartridges:


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Challenger Issues / Dissimilar Breakers and UL Classified replacement

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General Red Flags

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